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Temperature in the roof space was 15.38oC at 11:46:43 p.m. today. Click here to see the temperature graph for today Time spent so far: 200 hours Still to do:
Lessons Learned
Thursday May 20th Too hot up in the ceiling to do anything over summer, but now winter is upon
us so I really need to get this finished. Saturday December 19th Slow, slow progress. Finally have the HRV unit running, but not fully ducted
in. Had to get both of the HP plenum's reworked as nether would fit around the
ceiling framing. The return plenum is in place, going to try the supply one
today. Most of the ducting is hooked up, once the HP supply plenum is fitted,
I'll be able to hook up the rest. Condensate drain all but finished, just need
to add a short flexible bit from the end of the pressure pipe to the HP air
handler. Sunday November 1st Completed the hangers for the air handler and starting wiring together the
temperature sensors. I added a 5th sensor to measure the roof space temperature
to see if there was any merit in taking some heat from there. The roof space
temperature should be displayed at the top of this page. Having the temperature
sensor up there also lets me know if its going to be too hot to go up! Thursday October 22th Connected up some more ducting, and started on the hangers for the air handler. Went to the tip shop for some box section tube and made up a couple of hangers but then cocked up when drilling the holes for the threaded rod (hand drill and I skewed the holes). Have asked my buddy Gus to make them for me for me. (he has a drill press). I've discovered how motorised dampers work too, thanks to Smooth-Air in
Christchurch. The damper has 240v AC applied to the motor with a standard 2C + E
cable and then there is another control wire, when line power is connected to
this wire the motor operates the damper, when this control line is left open,
the damper closes (or the other way around!) Thursday October 15th Starting to fit the ducting together, I'm going to need to buy more. I think
I'm up to two times my original estimate. Wednesday October 14th Been a while since I updated this. I've decide to complicate the installation
by adding a ducted heatpump into the mix. Getting this into the ceiling cavity
made getting the HRV in place look like a walk in the park. There are also a
whole bunch of questions that are still unanswered, there is not guarantee the
HRV fans will push the air through the HP when the HP is turned off. I'll need
to add a powered damper to the return leg of the HP to close off when the HP is
not going to stop the HRV air from short cycling through this leg. No one seems
to know how to power the damper motor from the HP controller. The CleanAire HRV has no temperature sensors and the most basic control panel
so it's going to be impossible to see want the temperatures are at the heat
exchanger and how well the heat exchanger is working. I've decided to add four
temperature sensors to the HRV unit using the DS18S20 1-wire sensor. I've got 4
of these on order and the plan is to put one in each spigot of the HRV and wire
back to a PC for data logging. I should be able to plot the different
temperatures and see if this 90% efficiency is real or not. Sunday September 6th Apparently one of the diffusers I put in the living room was "an eyesore" so
I had to move it to another location a couple of meters away. Now I have a 280mm
hole in the ceiling to patch. I glued a square of gib over the hole, will glue
the cut out bit back in next week and plaster over. Started to run the ducting
and put in the takeoffs and whatnot. Once all the ducting is in place there will
but hardly any room to crawl around in the ceiling! Sunday August 30th Four diffusers in today. I found that the two others I had planned to install
I just cant get to because of the roofline, so I'm all done with cutting holes
in the ceiling and making a h-u-g-e mess (I hope). Time to start connecting
everything together. Saturday August 29th Got 1 more diffuser in, the rest of the ducting has arrived so no excused.
These last ones are in the really hard to get at places. They are going to take
some crawling to. Had some really heavy rain, No leaks around the exhaust vent, yahhoooo! Friday August 21th Got 3 more diffusers fitted, that's 10 of them fitted now. I've run out
of ducting and duct tape. Seems I have underestimated the lengths required. Need
to order another 5 6 metre lengths. Thursday August 20th Got 2 more diffusers fitted, that's 7 of them fitted, 10 to go. Makes a hell
of a mess cutting the holes in the ceiling. I brought a big hole saw that
attaches to a drill, its fast and reasonably neat but makes such a mess. I saw a
pretty neat looking hole cutter when I went into Holyoakes in Tawa to get a duct
reducer. It uses a drill bit type cutter on a arm. I think that would make much
less mess and be easier to use. It was $80, about $40 more than the hole cutter
I'm using, but I think it would have been worth the money. too late for that
here though! Sunday August 16th Started fitting the supply and exhaust diffusers. Got 5 of them fitted, would
be a much easier job with more than one person. Need to mark the approximate
position from below, measure this from a couple of points then climb up into the
ceiling to see where this is in relation to the joists, drill a pilot hole, get
back out of the ceiling, check the position, repeat until its right. Cutting the
hole and connecting the ducting is the easy part! Tuesday August 11th Levelled up and braced the exhaust vent and ducted to the HRV. Fitting the
supply vent by comparison was simple, bored a hole thru the soffit, connected
the ducting, all done in about an hour. Hardest part was cutting the 282mm hole
thru the asbestos soffit lining. That stuff is hard, tried not to breath too
much of it in. Going to rain tomorrow, will see if I installed the dektite
flashing correctly.
Monday August 10th Started on the exhaust and inlet vents, there is no room in the soffits for
vents except at the gable end so I'm fitting the inlet vent here. It's a standard
diffuser type. I cant fit the exhaust vent there too as it will be too close to
the inlet so I'm going through the roof and using a madonna cowl. For the
"through the roof" vent I needed to cut a oval hole through the corrugated iron,
using some old school tech drawing skills I projected the 250mm (diameter of the
vent) onto a 20 degrees angle (slope of my roof) and got about 266mm's. I used
Visio to draw a oval and printed out a template, the cut the hole using a
jigsaw. The dektite flashing is riveted down and gobs of silicone applied,
hopefully there wont be any leaks. Monday August 3rd Been a while since any progress was made. I've been waiting for the next shipment of bits to arrive - all the vents and takeoffs etc. They got here on Friday so I'll be back in to it this week. Thursday June 25th Installing the condensate drain has been a major pain in the arse. Nothing to
do with the CleanAire system, I chucked out the ugly thinwall black plastic pipe
they provided and ran the drain in 20mm pressure pipe. Finished the pressure
pipe with a threaded end and then fashioned a short flexible run from the elbow
supplied, a piece of washing machine hose and a threaded socket from a
irrigation system that was lying about in the shed. Most of the effort was due
to the very narrow access at the soffit, lots of forcing my body into very small
places. Pleased that is over. Lost an PVC elbow, 40mm hole saw and a really cool
magnet I'd had since I was a kid into the soffit space during the install. I
really want them back but short of smashing out the soffit lining I cant see
how. Tuesday June 9th Have had the electric supply hooked up and so the unit has power. On the
"low" speed setting I can barely hear the fans, on medium and high they make a
bit of noise but there is no ducting on yet. There was a stud in the way of the
ducting at the rear of the unit where the rubbish bin air filter will sit. I
needed to cut that out and frame around it with 100x50's. Saturday May 30th Completed the rubbish bin air filter. I used a 75l bin from Bunnings, it
was around $15. It's the "Homeware" brand. The plastic on this is quite brittle.
A trip to Mega10 shows they have a similar sized bin made from more "rubbery"
plastic, it was about $24. I think that may have been a better choice. I'm not
going to rework this one though unless it fails on me.
Friday May 29th Blocked off the summer bypass spigot with some insulated foil and duct tape.
Got one spigot on the air filter, will get the other one on tomorrow. Hope to
get some pics posted too. Fired the unit up using an extension cord, the fans blow rather than suck as in the documentation, hummmm, that's unexpected! The plans are drawn up incorrectly. Luckily
I haven't purchased any of the duct splitters yet as these will change. The
external fresh air inlet vent will need an adapter for it too, it was supplied
as 250mm but the inlet hole is only 200mm. Thursday May 28th Finished running the wires, everything is in place now for the electrician to
hook all the bits up. Getting the wires down the wall was a pain but using the
kids connex magnetic connectors made thing a bit easier. Checked out the air
filter, the parts are right, it's the drawing supplied that wrong. They have in
inlet and outlet vents transposed. That may effect the ducting plans but only by
a small amount. Tuesday May 26th Didn't get much done tonight. I ran the controller wire down the wall. Looks
like the air filter parts supplied are wrong, need to check tomorrow night. Monday May 25th Back running the wires again, almost got them done. Fitted the power socket
and ran the controller switch wires into the HRV. Just need to poke the wires
down the all to the switch board and to the controller switch then I'll be ready
for the electrician to come and hook everything up. Sunday May 24th Ran the wires for the power and the controller. The controller is a mains
voltage rotary 4 position switch. Would have been easier if this was a low
voltage unit but I guess that would add complexity. I needed 5 cores to the
switch so I ran a 1.5mm 2C + E and another 1.5mm 3C (Red, White & Blue). The
controller will be in a cupboard, its not something that needs to be easy to
access. Saturday May 23rd Back in the ceiling today. Hung the HRV from the rafters. Had to knock out
one collar tie. I'll need to add something back later. Not enough room to
use the turnbuckles on both sides. Just did one. Levelled everything up. Looks
ok. Friday May 22rd Started on the air filter rubbish bin, cut the holes in each end. Going to
need to get some bolts to hold the spigots on, pop rivets wont be long enough.
Back in the ceiling dragged the HRV unit down to where its going to go. Not a
lot of room to spare, had to lay the unit on its side in some places to get it
through some bits. I hate
the hold pink batts stuff, makes me itch and cough! Thursday May 21st
Moved the HRV unit up into the ceiling, rope and pulley to start and then
dragged it up the rest of the way. Got it up in the end (single handed). No
damage to me, the unit, or the attic ladder so all good!
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